# Telescopius showing different framing than Stellarium
**URL:** https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414
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**Created:** [December 5, 2021, 5:12am UTC](https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414 "2021-12-05T05:12:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@Its\_Cloudy\_Again](https://forum.telescopius.com/u/Its_Cloudy_Again)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2021, 5:12am UTC](https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414/1 "2021-12-05T05:12:28Z")
Hi,
Not sure if it’s just illusion because of different object rotation, but it seems like Telescopius is showing my framing more zoomed in?
All screenshots here:
[[Album] imgur.com  ](https://imgur.com/a/JoIDb2j)
Thanks
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### Author:  [@Fabrice\_Lamidey](https://forum.telescopius.com/u/Fabrice_Lamidey)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414/2 "2021-12-10T23:11:49Z")
I’ve read that it’s an epoch time problem. J2020 vs j2000.
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### Author:  [@sebagr](https://forum.telescopius.com/u/sebagr)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414/3 "2021-12-21T02:06:37Z")
Hi @Its_Cloudy_Again, welcome to the forum!
Yes, it’s probably due to the different rotation. I’m not sure what 0 degrees mean in Stellarium in that case, because that’s clearly not North up. Maybe you could try rotating one of the two to see if the framing matches? I’m quite positive they will 🙂
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### Author:  [@JKbooo](https://forum.telescopius.com/u/JKbooo)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414/4 "2022-07-14T23:17:46Z")
I don’t know what 0 degrees in Stellarium means as well, but apparently it has the same meaning as 0 degrees in PlateSolve2, because I get expected frame when I use the same rotation in these two programs. I can’t say the same thing about telescopius unfortunately… Is there any solution for this problem? I wish I could use these nice mosaic features of telescopius but they are useless for me if I can’t get reliable rotation info.
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### Author:  [@sebagr](https://forum.telescopius.com/u/sebagr)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414/5 "2022-07-15T12:27:00Z")
Position angle (rotation) in Telescopius is always East of North. Are you in the South hemisphere? If so, Stellarium may be showing 0 degrees when your framing is aligned to the South - which is equivalent to 180 degrees in Telescopius.
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### Author:  [@JKbooo](https://forum.telescopius.com/u/JKbooo)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414/6 "2022-07-16T14:58:48Z")
I’m on the northern hemisphere. 0 degrees rotation is exactly the same both in stellarium and telescopius but all the other rotations are not. It’s also not about 180 degrees difference.
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### Author:  [@John999R](https://forum.telescopius.com/u/John999R)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.telescopius.com/t/telescopius-showing-different-framing-than-stellarium/414/7 "2022-07-30T22:12:29Z")
Is it feasible for websites like Stellarium, Cartes du Ciel, Telescopius, etc to imprint a compass on each image, so relatively new people like me can get a better handle on up, down, and sideways directions?